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JChang
07-03-03, 11:18 PM
The Bush Administration has generated significant public attention because of Ari Fleischer's recent refusal to rule out the possibility of sending troops to Liberia. The administration now says that it will make a decision before Bush's upcoming Africa trip and Pentagon planners are busy drafting options.

Yes, Liberia was founded by freed slaves and has historic connections to the U.S., but why is Bush getting ready to intervene here while continuing to ignore other pertinent crises, specifically that in the DRC?

Economic considerations certainly come into play:
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June 23, 2003 – Salt Lake Tribune
Nearly 70,000 Congolese die monthly from starvation and disease precipitated by corporate-funded bloodshed. On May 30, the United Nations Security Council authorized the deployment of about 1,400 peacekeepers to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, (DRC), formerly Zaire. Simultaneously the United States stated it would not participate in the U.N. effort. It is in the economic interest of corporate America not only to ignore the bloodshed, but to prolong the misery.
DRC is an African country whose eastern borders front Rwanda and Uganda. Its eastern provinces contain 80 percent of the world's reserve of the mineral tantalum. When combined with the mineral niobium they compose a rare substance called Columbite-tantalite -- coltan for short.
In its raw stage, coltan looks like black mud. Processed coltan efficiently conducts an electrical charge, which powers high-tech equipment like cellular phones, computers, play stations and DVD players. It also helps power jet engines, missiles, satellites and weapons systems.
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The technology explosion of the late 1990s created an immense demand for coltan. International technology and mining companies were hungry for exclusive mining rights in the coltan rich areas of the DRC. When rebel leader Laurent Kabila overthrew the existing regime in 1997 he was propped up by international companies which, as reported by The New York Times, were "swarming around this region of mineral riches and signing lucrative deals despite the uncertainty hanging over the nation's future".
The Bechtel Corporation provided NASA satellite infrared maps of the mineral rich areas. Bechtel executives even helped Kabila strategize on how to subdue ethnic uprisings. But Kabila made a fatal error. In May 1998 he nationalized the Congolese railway and talked about other industries he thought were best run by government. This alarmed outside investors who could see nationalization cutting them off from cheap mineral supplies.
In August 1998, Rwanda and Uganda invaded the Congo. Aware they could not finance a war, the two countries concentrated on securing the coltan-rich areas. They entered into deals with international mining companies allowing them to mine coltan with protection from Rwandan and Ugandan armies. In 1999 and 2000, the Rwandan army was reportedly earning $20 million a month providing the service.
The United States, Japan and Western Europe are the largest consumers of the minerals illegally extracted and shipped from the DRC through Rwanda and Uganda. Not wanting to buy directly from the invaders, our government buys and stockpiles needed minerals from third-party mining companies that exploit the situation by contributing to the invaders who keep the DRC government ineffective.
A strong centralized government would control mineral development for national economic purposes. But, as reported April 20 by the New York Times, " . . . neither the United States nor any other nation seems to have much interest in seeing a strong Congolese central government keep profits . . . "
The corporate hunger for coltan through clandestine rebel support has devastated the Congolese. Starving inhabitants kill gorillas, elephants and rare species. The DRC ecosystem is being pillaged by uncontrolled mining. Congolese have become forced laborers. More than 4 million Congolese have died of starvation and disease in four years.
We have engaged in two wars to maintain our access to oil. It appears we now condone inhuman treatment to maintain our access to a precious mineral.
Some of the largest beneficiaries of the bloodshed are Sony, Intel, Hitachi, NEC, Hewlett-Packard, Lucent, Motorola and Nokia. Of course we, the consumers, are beneficiaries.
Our government's refusal to render humanitarian aid and disregard of the exploitation is not compatible with our true nature. We are a nation of good people. But, that is not enough, we must act like good people.
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But if the situation in Liberia demands US intervention, certainly the ongoing violence in the DRC also begs US involvement:
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UN Office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs
DRC: UN's multinational force "totally insufficient", says crisis group
NAIROBI, 16 Jun 2003 (IRIN) - The French-led multinational force being deployed to Bunia, the main town in the embattled Ituri District of northeastern Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), is "totally insufficient", the International Crisis Group, a global analysis and advocacy organisation, said in a report published on Friday.

In its report, titled "Congo Crisis: Military Intervention in Ituri", the crisis group calls for a larger UN intervention force that covers a greater geographic area and stays much longer than the 1 September deadline currently mandated. The existing UN Mission in the DRC, MONUC, is expected to take over when the multinational force leaves.

The multinational force is "conceived only as a stopgap, to hold the line until additional MONUC troops are deployed in September", Francois Grignon, the group’s Central Africa project director, said in a statement issued with the report. He added that if the multinational force did not demilitarise Bunia, "it was likely to be caught in competing accusations from all the militias that almost certainly will lead to conflict".

Grignon said, "The militias must be cantoned at least 15 km out of Bunia to allow displaced populations to access the town freely and receive relief."

By mid-August, the crisis group added, MONUC must also have the physical capability, reinforced mandate and political backing to intervene in support of Ituri's pacification and be geared towards restoration of Congolese state sovereignty.

"There must also be sustained pressure on Rwanda, Uganda and Congo's leaders - and their proxy militias - to support the local pacification process in the area and finalise negotiations towards the establishment of a legitimate transitional Congo government," Grignon said.

The crisis group also said it was important that MONUC's reinforcement not be limited to Ituri, but to the provinces of North and South Kivu, to the south of Ituri, which have been at the heart of DRC's wars for the past decade and where the conflict's toll has been even higher.

"The pacification of Ituri should provide a formula for the wider, directly linked task of bringing stability and security to the entire eastern Congo," the crisis group stated.
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The U.S. response to this crisis has been, in a word, inept.
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Newshour, June 30
JIM LEHRER: Well, for instance, another country, Congo, there are little boys and girls carrying weapons there and shooting at each other, where rape is being used as what they call a weapon of mass destruction. They're talking about genocide. Is that on the list of U.S. priorities as well?

COLIN POWELL: Yes, and we've been participating in the debates in the U.N., and we are looking at the latest request from the secretary general to increase the size of the U.N. force in Congo. And we have been in close touch with our French, and other European, colleagues about their activities in Northeast Congo around the town of Bunia. And I spoke to French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin about the situation today.
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As with the DRC when fighting intensified after the failed ceasefire in recent months, Kofi Annan and other members of the international community have urged the US to assist in peacekeeping in Liberia. Rumsfeld immediately rejected that possibility in the DRC with very little public discussion, but Liberia has floated to the top of the agenda.

We've established that the US has a compelling disincentive to act in the DRC, but the question still remains of what unique benefits the US garners from entering Liberia.

Why Liberia but not the DRC?

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-04-03, 12:31 AM
Not to be too shrewd, but it's been about 2 months since the last official miltary campaign and Bush needs some results.

Afghanistan did not yield the direct results that our government claimed they wanted; namely the end of Al Quaeda and capturing osama Bin Laden. That didn't happen according to plan.

So then it was off to stop that evil Saddam Hussein and safely secure his weapons of mass destruction to protect the free world. Ummmmm... yeah.

Meanwhile, you'l see that Little Bush was all over the news in any forum he could find to trump up support for war initiatives before the military engagements, but when they turn out to have missed entirely some of thier foremost goals, he's kept at an arm's length from liability. I see Rumsfeld and Powell backpeddling, and Blair will be out of a gig soon, but Bush is miraculously unscathed by his screw-ups. The downside of this is that he isn't able to trade on the political capital that such victories would usually enatil, because that would bring even more heat from the public on whether or not we'll ever hit one of thosed claimed goals.

Why get involved in Liberia? Politics. It seems like it would be an easy enough situatio to keep in hand, and it would afford Bush the opportunity to have a better foreign policy record than currently he does by being the good guy who kept the slaves liberated. He's already sacrificed domestic issue credibility by ignoring social security and education- the two issues he campaigned on hardest in 1999/2000 while claiming the US is too involved in "Nation-Building"- so he needs a "Good guy America" scenario to bolster his popularity.

Bear in mind, I'm not moving to wuestion the moral validity of lack thereof of involving the US in the Liberian conflict, I'm only moving to question the US's motive, which was the question that I believe James put forward.

PancreasMatt
07-04-03, 01:40 AM
yes, we must all "wuestion" moral claims, and the actions of our leader. Indeed, "wuestioning" may be essential to the continued existance of our democracy.

Sorry brendo, havent seen you in a bit, so I'm just kidding, haha.

AhhAlegra
07-04-03, 02:40 AM
It works if you do a faux-Spanish-villian accent. Mwa ha ha, how dare ju wuestion the baliditee of dee grreat leaders ov Libeeria!

PancreasMatt
07-04-03, 03:24 AM
hahahah, thats great, i've always loved "Mwa ha ha"

rocky
07-04-03, 03:28 AM
Looking at the situation from a purely geopolitical standpoint, Liberia is a small country, easily dealt with, while Congo is huge, much of it far from the sea, full of dense jungle and lacking the kind of dense infrastructure (even when compared with Iraq) required to launch and maintain the kind of high-consumption military or humanitarian effort which would be required. Even for the United States, power is situational (even if it happens to be situated in the corporations).

pdano
07-04-03, 03:50 AM
I don't know... I look at this from a somewhat different angle. No one's going to deny that there were massive human rights abuses in Iraq as well as Liberia. I see two direct differences, one legitimate, one stupid but probably truer. First, Liberia's actively destabilizing the region. The aid sent to Sierra Leone's rebels in the past, and the Ivory Coast's rebels more recently, are much more direct attacks on the West African region than Saddam's alleged WMDs (which I do think exist -- somewhere -- but whatever). Second, much of the criticism on the war on Iraq comes from the ostensible oil grab, and the assumed hidden motive that Bush et al. had in the invasion of Iraq. Bush may have said that there are human rights abuses and the threat of WMDs, critics say, but because he wants to do it, there must be some hidden reason, and that's oil. Now that Bush is a little more hesitant and not leading the charge, those critics believe that there is no such hidden agenda, which means that an intervention would be just humanitarian and therefore justified.

It's not quite partisanship, because there's an ultimate goal in mind: the betterment of the region without the exploitation of the people and natural resources. That said, it does rely on the assumption that the administration could never want to do the right thing, which IS based quite a bit on partisanship (or facts, depending on where you are in the spectrum).

I wouldn't require liberals to be CONSISTENT about it; troops belong in some places, not in others, and Liberia's a heck of a more direct threat to its neighbors than Iraq was.

Dan

PancreasMatt
07-04-03, 03:52 AM
well, i don't think us lefties are a cohesive group as such, but alright-

The difference seems simple- sometimes intervention is required, and sometimes it ain't- killing Iraqis for oil is imperialism.

Stopping a genocide in Rwanda is good. Rwanda doesn't get attention because its not in an area of interest. Just because i think Iraq was a colonialist venture doesn't mean i have to say all intervention is bad. Oh, heres something you guys like!!! "it's a false dichotomy!" :)

PancreasMatt
07-04-03, 03:55 AM
also, when in the hell did it become ok to dismiss oil or economics as a motivation for war without any warrants? It seems like this is just "some stupid liberal thing" but the arguments aren't ever refuted- i.e. timing of Wars and benefits to companies like haliburton. I mean, come on, realist defense books even regonize that the wars are economically motivated.

disk
07-04-03, 04:29 AM
There are people who reside on the left who advocate for the use of peace keeping forces and military intervention. The distinction between the left and right is fundamentally around the question of how the military is used. In the case of Iraq much of the left opposed the action because it was basically unilateral and did not work through international law or through multi-lateral structures. The case of Liberia and the DRC are significantly different than Iraq. The position of Jurgen Habermas in the new book Habermas and Derrida in Dialogues: Philosophy in an Age of Terror by Borradori would be a great place to start. In it, Habermas argues that the responses to the threat of terrorism by the United States are fundamentally flawed because of the refusal of the US to operate through global channels. Habermas supported the first Gulf war but opposed the second. Much of the left feels the same.

You ask "lefties" to be consistent but that standard is certainly not maintained by the right. If you want to have a discourse ethics then you should become a little bit better versed with its leading proponent. The left can and should selectively endorse military action based on the case or specific context. In fact, given the level of systematically distorted communication from the right it is clear that the left justifications for multi-lateral interventions are significantly closer to communicative rationality than the alternative.

The real question is under what circumstances should the left push for human rights based interventions. That is much more difficult to sift through and provides a much more fertile ground for debate than the left and right throwing mud at each other. I have no doubt that both the Left and Right will be inconsistent. To the extent that the left specifically informs their justifications for intervention by reasoning through a variety of alternatives I think it behooves us all to analyze the reasons in the specific contexts. That, I believe, was the basis for the ethical dilemma offered in the original post to this thread.

So Back to task - why Liberia and not the DRC? It is an important question for the left to grapple with. It certainly foregrounds the ways that instrumental logics pervade policy making. A host of brutal regimes are entrenched and would cost enormous amounts to remove. Under what conditions should the left work to remove dictators and what types of actions are justified in an imperfect world? Great questions that scholars across the academy struggling with. Reading the interviews of Habermas and Derrida in their new book is an excellent place to begin. Both Habermas and Derrida offer a series of ideas for the left. Each ends with the ideal of cosmopolitan citizenship.

My admittedly unsolicited advice would be to either engage the leading voices of the left or accept that they do not meet your standards of consistency and move on.

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-04-03, 05:32 AM
Okay, we get it... Brendo can't type properly.

I think we all know that the word was "KWESTION".

jeez, you forget a K 1 time and they're all over you...

disk
07-04-03, 05:41 AM
Habermas really dislikes Bush - I do too - but that is irrelevant.

If you want a smart and well articulated explanation for the position of the left as it relates to military intervention then all you have to do is go buy the book. Or conversely, you can read four or five hundred law reviews on the subject of multilateralism and military intervention and then if you feel those authors are annoying you can directly contest their claims. If you just want to dismiss the whole of the left then you should be aware that many will judge you as being rather close-minded. Of course, you can just respond that the left has become closeminded and ever on with the circle.

If you dislike the far left then why not directly address their arguments. Post Derrida's or Baudrillard's responses to the US military and then argue against them. You have a mythic enemy that you claim engages in a variety of tactics and I must admit I do not see it. Cite their argument and then refute it. Don't create a massive ghost to represent the left or far left. That's really as pointless as your arguments about the left totalizing the position of the right. If you do not like the left collapsing the arguments of the right then set a precedent and actually engage the arguments rather than simply repeating the tactic.

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-04-03, 05:45 AM
Also, before I forget..

Jason, I understand the position you see in terms of "The Left" [capitalized] not being entirely consistant. However, I don;t think it's totally uncalled for, or even an actual ocurrence most of the time.

The fact of the matter is: Was the war in Iraq perfectly timed to make an oil grab as we experienced an unexpected "downturn" in our economy? Yes. Did Bush's regime ensure that fat-ass contracts took care of his constituents and even his friends and relatives who own massive portions of companies like Dow and Haliburton? Yes. Was Saddam Hussein a total a-hole? Of course. Are the people better off without him? Arguable, but most would say yes.

My point here is that nobody can reasonably expect exact and perfect black and white, moral and ethical balance and consistency 100% of the time in world that is merely a million shades of gray.

Also, to be fair to those like me whom, [as I've previously stated], are disenfranchised from politics andour government as a whole, we are totally consistent in claiming that in all such cases under debate, US involvement has been based on domestic political capital and not the lies that we use to justify [attempts at] killing sovereign leaders and taking their resources, or swooping in to look like the good guy who is saving the kid that Sally Struthers cried over in a 3 AM infomercial. Persons like myself just concentrate on seeing through the bull and remembering that if we do get involved in Liberia, it's basically Bush's way of saying [in a dopey accent], "I've paid my 10 cents a day, and now little Umbatu here is learning how to read. Vote republican."

Kurtis Blow
07-04-03, 05:59 AM
If they wanted oil, they would have dropped sanctions

yeah, that would have been a great PR move. There was no way Bush would have done that, no matter what his intentions, so using that as an argument is totally prepostrous.

and in my opinion, sending in troops and going to war are two completely different things and they need to be kept separate.
Iraq was a war, and the casualties reflect that. You can't compare that to sending in troops to Liberia.

PancreasMatt
07-04-03, 06:26 AM
because less americans will die in liberia? is that the difference?

JChang
07-05-03, 04:18 AM
The double standard from the left seems shocking to me, particularly in how unrecognized it seems to be.

When the U.S. sent troops to Iraq, the left cried "imperlism". yet the same people also get made when the U.S. doesn't send troops to Congo or Rwanda.

Do you lefties want U.S. troops to be deployed overseas or not? Make up your mind and please be CONSISTENT about it.

Iraq, Liberia, Congo, Rwanda, etc all involved grievous human rights catastrophies. Yet, the left appears to disregard the similarities, prefering instead to argue for whatever the opposite of Administration policy is. That's using human rights as a cover for bald and selfish partisanship and its repugnant.

A clear delineation needs to be drawn between wars of aggression with the intent of toppling the government, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, and peacekeeping - the US mission to Liberia would presumably be charged with enforcing an already existing ceasefire agreement (unless Bush decides to somehow make good on his declaration that Charles Taylor leave the country). The UN mission to the DRC that the US declined to participate in had a similar (albeit perhaps too restrictive) mandate.

There are many different forms of foreign military deployment - it is not inconsistent to oppose deployment for wars of conquest while supporting the use of troops in peacekeeping missions.

patio11
07-05-03, 08:04 AM
Someone thinks removing the sanctions would have been politically unpopular? Did you listen during the last ten years when the wings of both parties were claiming that they were killing X million children a minute? I remember getting fliers from workers at St. Joseph the Laborer, a perfectly mainstream in every way Catholic parish, that said that we were basically involved in genocide for the sanctions. Bush could have reaped massive political capital by jumping onto the French/Russian bandwagon on that one.

Now, the really ironic thing is that its turned out that the X million deaths were caused deliberately by Saddam Hussein to get the sanctions revoked. Malicious dictators killing people to achieve their ends, imagine that. Who was it that said democracy was weak because we fall for those shenanigans every time? I don't know if it justifies the impact, but the link is sure there. Soviet Union/Cuba/etc, we always seem to get suckered by that one.

Patrick McKenzie

n.b. I'm using "we" to be polite :)

JChang
07-05-03, 08:27 PM
I think your differentiation of "wars of conquest" and "aggression" is founded in bias against particular wars than anything that can be sustained as an analytical device. Humanitarian operations from Bosnia to Kosovo to Somalia were described by their opponents as "aggression", for example.

So what you are really saying when you invoke "aggression" or "conquest" is that you don't like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Further, when you want to support intervention in Liberia, you just select a different label.

That's a broad generalization that fails to realize the clear differences in mandate and function of troops engaged in these different types of operations. In Afghanistan and Iraq, there was massive offensive aerial bombardment and deployment of ground troops to systematically destroy enemy targets and remove the respective governments from power. Peacekeeping missions often require troops to maintain ceasefire agreements, aid in disarmament and prevent further fighting with the presence of troops.

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-06-03, 12:50 AM
Wow, I think the rift on wars of aggression vs. noble causes here is a pretty simple one.

Jason, I believe James is refering to the points that while our assaults on Iraq and Afghanistan were heavily based in airborne offense and went for maximum damage to minimun cost US casualties, the missions that James and others are able to justify, such as intervention in Kosovo or Somalia, [or whatever "peacekeeping" scenario you like], require ground troops.

To hear a claim like, "you support campaigns that leave troops vulnerable..." is pretty silly- even though I get the sarcasm. Yeah, I support ground troops if you are indeed going to claim some sort of altruistic or noble cause for military intervention. This relatively "ineffective" method, I believe, is useful for not KILLING THE PEOPLE YOU CLAIM YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP!!!

Look to Afghanistan, where for the last 4 years, Americans were assisting people in trying to flee out of the Taliban's rule and into neighboring nations like Pakistan via non-profits like Voices in the Wilderness. When the US decided it was time to go agg on the Al Quaeda and the Taliban, US armed forces removed the AMerican civilians from the mountains, sent most of the refugees to summer "Camp" in Guantanamo Bay, and killed the rest in the bombing campaign to kill that rascaly Saddam- I mean Osama.

This, of course ignores my point that the US doesn't act altruisticaly, but only for the sake of harvesting political capital domestically. Until anybody acres to argue that we are going to be noble, [like we were in Rwanda?...], I'll assume I;m right.

pdano
07-06-03, 12:56 AM
"This, of course ignores my point that the US doesn't act altruisticaly, but only for the sake of harvesting political capital domestically."

Brendan, what do you think of the foreign aid budget? All polls show that people think we're spending too much in foreign aid, and it does keep going up -- the military part, sure, but also humanitarian and economic aid. What about the funding going to a program like IDEA, which used to be funded completely by the Soros Foundation, but now receives two-thirds of its budget from the State Department? Is this all for PR, or is there *gasp* some altruism in AID and other parts of our government?

Dan

pdano
07-06-03, 01:16 AM
This is why people are always accusing you of using double standards. You're critical of Brendan for using "highly biased" and "inflammatory" rhetoric, but then you call his position "crap" and "bad propaganda" (I actually think this is pretty funny propaganda). Sure, he's exaggerating, but he's not putting it forth as fact -- surely he doesn't believe that "the rest" were actually killed -- but as a humorous way of noting legitimate problems with U.S. policy: the imposition on aid programs, treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo, unintentional civilian casualties in the pursuit of Taliban and al-Qaeda remnants, and the oft-suspected conflation of Saddam and Osama. If you disagree with him, fine, but there's not even any dispute of these claims within your post; you just dismiss them as "crap." Maybe you don't like his sense of humor; fine. But it's not like he accused the U.S. of genocide in Thailand or something completely off-kilter.

"And it is why the left winds up actually INCREASING support for wars to which it objects."

Is there any proof for this that controls for the "rally 'round the flag" effect? I'd be interested to see a poll or a study that confirms that the anti-war movement increased support, especially in the epitome of the anti-war movement, Vietnam.

Dan

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-06-03, 01:31 AM
Jason, OUR GOVERNMENT KILLED REFUGEES. Jon Strange, one of the organizers of Voices in the Wilderness is documenting all the shit they went through in the month leading up to the bombing of Afghanistan for his next book.

By any account you want, the fact of the matter is that there are a minimum of 2000 dead Afghanis due to US military campaigns in the last two years. If you'd like to argue taht every single one of em' had it coming, or that it was worth the collateral damage for the good it produced, that's fine. I know you're a smart guy and I'm sure you've got some good justifications, hell I do. But I can tell you that Habib Tarzeid, my former boss, less than 8 months ago recently went to his native Afghanistan because his brother an dtwo cousins went missing in early 2002.

It's really easy to dismiss other people's data as "crap" and "propaganda" when you don't agree with them, or you use an alternate source. I do it daily. But you could at least do the service of trying to engage the issue, rather than just re-affrm that you trust different sources than I do.

As for drumming up support for the wars with my "propaganda". 1. I doubt vocal opposition has an effect converse to it's point, [although you should ask Long Beach, they're better protestors than I am[
2. I don't care. The wars are the status quo, and I don't claim to have the answers. I regulary state that I am dissillusioned with my place in American politics, and I longago gave up trying to change that.

Also, while I'm at it, I think you are right. I used value-affirmative language in describing the differences between conflict. Please bear in mind that I was merely reffreing to the obviously value-affirmed positions delineated to said conflicts by previous posts. I was really trying to express the gap between what we are able to claim as having a "just" cause.

Although again, attacking my words and not my points is a great way to avoid engaging what I consider valid arguements, and border on disrepect. Hats off.

Much love and respect.

BrendoForHisOwnSake
07-06-03, 01:33 AM
Thanks for getting it Dan.

jatkins
07-12-03, 09:03 PM
I'm not sure exactly what to think on Liberia. On the one hand, we've been asked to come. On the other hand, we have a really, really poor track record with preventing tragedies through military intervention. I'd like anything that happens to be done through the UN, but I don't see President Bush asking for approval.