Azusa & Oregon Resolutions?

[NonEcdicus]

Anyone got 'em (or any others not yet posted in "Tournament Results")?

[UCSDanny]

hey,

from memory here are the azusa ones, I might be off on some of the wordings but here are the general areas.... I'm not sure if "TH" was in them or not either.

1) Amend the first amendment
2) TH would trump the race card
3) The Palestinians deserve a homeland
4) The current divorce rate is unacceptable
5) The US should be responsible for the actions of its allies
6) It's time to replace Alan Greenspan
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O) There's nothing affirmative about affirmative action
Q) TH would change its Foreign Policy towards the US
S) Iraq is not a threat
F) TH would trade its kingdom for a horse

[Dan6814]

If anyone stuck around for the final round at Asuza, what did the government team run on the "trade its kingdom for a horse" topic?

Dan

[Gavin499]

Does it matter? I heard they dropped on T... As one would expect with that particular resolution... But in response to your question I heard that they ran some sort of environmental policy... don't recall which one... though I may be mixing up junior and senior...

Gavin

[UCSDanny]

hey,

well I prolly shouldn't have done this to our JV team but I suggested a case during prep time that they went with - I dunno about helping out during prep, it never seems to work well - the case was kinda tricky and of course invited at T argument (altho that wasn't the basis for the decision - yay they answered t! ;-)) unfortunately a C/p and dropped disad carried the day.

We defined "kingdom" as SUV's and "horse" as Hybrid cars and had the gov't offer tax breaks to corporations making hybrids instead of SUV's and consumers for buying hybrid cars instead of SUV's =)

something to run at least =)

Is claremont going to Grossmont, Dan? Just wondering whose gonna be there.

seeya
-danny

[Dan6814]

Yeah, I'm not really sure what I would have run on that. Not a very good resolution when you have to spend 15 minutes coming up with a topical case, and no time at all actually writing it.

And Danny, Claremont is going to be at Grossmont, but Daniel, Christina, Aaron, and I are going to be at Berkeley this weekend. See you at Northridge next weekend?

Dan

[PancreasMatt]

well, the final round the gov team ratified the kyoto protocal. there wasnt any specification on implementation, but i imagine it owuld have been either caps or tradable permits. trading "kingdom" (free market economy) for the horse (Richard the third- in battle, drops off of his horse, then has to get a new one for immediate survival. The idea was, GHGs and Global warming is gonna kill us all (the army fighting richard in the play) so we have to give up the unfettered pollution of non-regulated corps to survive. there was an econ DA, but i thoought it owuld have been neat to see Idso CO2 fert, methane screw and SO2 screw also as neg args.
matt c.

[joecool12321]

Just a suggestion, but the resolution might have came from the poem:

For want of a nail, the shoe was lost
For want of a shoe, the horse was lost
For want of a horse, the rider was lost
For want of a rider, the battle was lost
For want of a battle, the kingdom was lost

I don't know how that helps, especially because of the question regarding how you are going to trade, and what the benefit is. It might have been fun to be McDonalds and only use free-range animals for meat, or something.

Huh, an interesting question that just occured to me. What happens if your plan is topical, but your effects are non-topical? For example, I could easily see someone trading the horse in plan, but as a solvency or benefity, they get the kingdom back. Shouldn't that plan be topical, though? Say someone ran kingdom = McD's empire, horse = source of food or something. So they trade their empire built on bad beef production for a more humane food source*. I could easily see a team arguing that since the fourth advantage is "long-term economic gain" the gov should loose since they don't really trade the horse.

But they do trade the horse, and that's what the plan calls for. How would you imagine this debate being played out?

---Joey

*This whole case is sortof crap, but used to illustrate the important issue of "Reverse Effects T"

[NonEcdicus]

Anyone have the Univeristy of Oregon Resolutions? Or any other recent sets of tournament resolutions.

Please either post them here or email them to me at bshipley@willamette.edu, and I will get them up in the Tournament Results section here at NB.

-Brian

[DreinCali]

Matt is right, the quote is from Richard III. It's the last line spoken by Richard and actually the last line spoken by a king in the whole history cycle. Richard's horse is killen in battle so now he's kind of screwed and fighting on foot. The whole play he's been a manipulative, self-centered, power-hungry shit, so the point of the line is to show how desperate and powerless he is that he would now trade his kingdom, which he spent the whole play acquiring, for a horse so he could fight back. He doesn't get one, and he gets killed in the next scene.

Quite frankly I think Shakespeare makes for bad resolutions; there's too much symbolism. In this quote, it seems literally topical to, say, trade power for environmentalism or animal rights, but that's WAY out of context. Closer to the sentiment would be to acknowledge a desperate situation (key) and then trade power or sovereignty for something short term that might eventually allow recovery of the kingdom. I can barely think of anything..maybe be a HIPC and accept a Structural Adj. Plan? who knows. Clever parli resolutions give me a headache.

Dre

[Western Amy]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> <em> Double, Double Toil and trouble
Fire Burn and cauldron bubble . . .
By the pricking of my thumbs
Something wicked this way comes </em>[/quote]

Thus came about the best Shakespeare res I heard (sorry Scooter) "THBT something wicked this way comes" whcih puts the burden on the gov to define wicked, prove that the impending event is wicked and that it is impending.

BTW, Macbeth had another good possibility as I was leafing though it. "TH concurs that 'Security is mortal's chiefest enemy'"

[USC MissingLink]

How about

"To be, not not to be"
"Life is but a walking shadow"
"The play is the thing to catch the concious of a king"
"A rose by any other name is just as sweet" (actually debated this one)
"The fewer the men the greater the share of honor"

jEd